Good morning from Finland

[Yali]

-You brought war into it...I might consider thinking about letting you off however. hehehe


And that sounds cool Yali, I always wanted to play the violin, but never got round to it. We can string our instruments with the innards of Sal and Hudders... Mwuhahahahaha!

You know.. that sounds like an EXCELLENT idea...

hmmmm...

*goes to do some research*

[Hudders]

God, you guys are SOOOO welcoming...


*slaps Saladin, oh, I mean Lunicks and Hudders*

What have I done??

-You brought war into it...I might consider thinking about letting you off however. hehehe

The Winter War between Soviet Russia and Finland was a triumph for Finland - the underdog.

Soviet Forces:
1,000,000 men
6,541 tanks
3,800 aircraft

Finnish Forces:
250,000 men
30 tanks
130 aircraft

Soviet Losses:
126,875 dead or missing
264,908 wounded
5,600 captured
2,268+ tanks

Finnish Losses:
26,662 dead
39,886 wounded
1,000 captured

[XxRockFairyxX]

God, you guys are SOOOO welcoming...


*slaps Saladin, oh, I mean Lunicks and Hudders*

What have I done??

-You brought war into it...I might consider thinking about letting you off however. hehehe

The Winter War between Soviet Russia and Finland was a triumph for Finland - the underdog.



Soviet Losses:
126,875 dead or missing
264,908 wounded
Finnish Losses:
26,662 dead
39,886 wounded

-I don't see the triumph here...

But I do see your point. Kind of.

Surely you could've found something else triumphant about the Finnish/and or their accomplishments?

*goes back to hugging a tree*

As for us British, we've always been power hungry war-mongering bastards. And they wonder where the Americans got it from...

*sprays perfume to mask the scent of controversy*

*belches*

[Yali]

silly brits.

At least us dutchies have a pure and innocent history.

Well, if you don't count all the pirating...

[Lanzaned]

Buccaneering..... makes it legal

[Yali]

Buccaneering..... makes it legal

Ah, this is true, I almost forgot!

[Hudders]

Soviet Losses:
126,875 dead or missing
264,908 wounded
Finnish Losses:
26,662 dead
39,886 wounded

-I don't see the triumph here...

The Soviet dead is a whole order of magnitude more than the Finnish dead. You would have thought that a bigger force that was better armed would have defeated them BUT NO! Finland triumped.

silly brits.

At least us dutchies have a pure and innocent history.

Well, if you don't count all the pirating...

What about South Africa? Indonesia? New Guinea? Ceylon?

A lot of our Empire we nicked off you. You're the blood thirsty colonialists that trampled the native population and burned their villages.

Every European power had an Empire back in the day, and each was about as bloody as every other. The French empire was perhaps the most brutal however, particularly in Algeria. It was also the reason for the Vietnam war.

[Lanzaned]

But we made up for that by selling Manhattan for 24 dollars and Surinam.....

[Hudders]

But we made up for that by selling Manhattan for 24 dollars and Surinam.....

Suriname? Don't make me laugh.

You conquer it in 1667 and grant it independance in 1975? How does that make up for anything?

You didn't even abolish slavery until 1863.

[Lanzaned]

But we made up for that by selling Manhattan for 24 dollars and Surinam.....

Suriname? Don't make me laugh.

You conquer it in 1667 and grant it independance in 1975? How does that make up for anything?

You didn't even abolish slavery until 1863.

I happen to remember from my history lessons that we acquired Suriname by exchanging it for 24$ and Manhattan

[Yali]

But we made up for that by selling Manhattan for 24 dollars and Surinam.....

Suriname? Don't make me laugh.

You conquer it in 1667 and grant it independance in 1975? How does that make up for anything?

You didn't even abolish slavery until 1863.

You honestly think we abolished slavery?
You poor unknowing fool....

[Lanzaned]

Furthermore:

Suriname[1], (Dutch: Republiek Suriname), officially the Republic of Suriname (traditionally spelled Surinam by the English who founded the first colony at Marshall's Creek[2], along the Suriname River, but lately the Dutch spelling is more widely accepted; in Sranan Tongo Sranan), is a country in northern South America.

[Hudders]

But we made up for that by selling Manhattan for 24 dollars and Surinam.....

Suriname? Don't make me laugh.

You conquer it in 1667 and grant it independance in 1975? How does that make up for anything?

You didn't even abolish slavery until 1863.

I happen to remember from my history lessons that we acquired Suriname by exchanging it for 24$ and Manhattan

Oh I see what you mean. I misunderstood your comment; I thought you meant Suriname was a separate thing that made up for something rather than in addition to the $24.

But no, I think that's a myth, or at least a misinterpretation. There were Dutch and English settlements established in Suriname in the 16th century but by the 17th, you'd conquered our settlements whilst we took New Netherland, (a Dutch colony along the coast of the New World - now Manhattan), in 1664. We offered to trade one for the other at the Treaty of Breda in 1667 but you basically weren't interested so New Netherland became part of New England and Suriname was lost in its entirity to the Dutch until it gained independance in 1975.

I don't see where the $24 comes into it. Neither England nor the Netherlands were using Dollars as their currency at that time and the United States of America didn't exist until 1776, not minting any currency until 1785.

[okkim]

That whole argumenting of winter war made me laugh
Yep it was triumph for Finland...
and I don't mind if u remember Finland because of winter war... The other things that usually comes up is drinking
And because of the triumph in the winter war we have now possibility to get ourselves wasted as fins not as russians

btw. Finland won vs USA in icehockey yesterday 3-2
and like so many other years some finns skipped work cause of watching icehockey in bars last midnight

[Lanzaned]

When I hear Finland I think Lake Bodom en HIM